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The morning after

Posted by Ron Coleman on November 5, 2008

Bullet points of my own, though I think nearly all the salient ones are encapsulated in this post and discussion at Dean’s World.  But, in no particular order:

  • John McCain may be the most fortunate man in the world right this minute.
  • If this doesn’t turn into a harrowing, even miserable four years for President Obama — and I am not partisan enough to hope they do — then, given the above point, he really is All That, isn’t he?
  • I think, as I have said all along, that the main problem with Barack Obama is the company he keeps, which includes the company that got him to where he is today.  He seems to me be a decent guy, for a politician and with all the other qualifiers.  But that may not be enough to prevent what worries so many of us from happening.  It probably won’t be.
  • One of the great tests of our system will be whether the great degree of lawlessness and corruption that was the Obama campaign will be revealed and punished.  It probably won’t be.
  • None of us was able to bang the drum for John McCain.  He burned conservatives and sold out conservative principles too many times, he is old, and his campaign, though not nearly as bad as Bob Dole’s or even John Kerry’s, was pretty lame.
  • Given that it can’t be replaced, the GOP must be rebuilt from the ground up.  A total loss of political power was the only way this was going to happen.
  • The most painful thing about this is not that the other side won, but that so very many of them are such absolute insufferable asses.
  • But among these asses, none is more contemptible than virtually every member of the Democratic caucus of the two houses of Congress.  To them I wish nothing but the worst.  Ever word they utter in front of a microphone is encrusted in falsehood, cynicism and a desire for control that makes their most byzantine fantasy of Karl Rove look like a frat boy.
  • Well, okay.  The MSM is more contemptible.  But their day is coming.
  • John McCain failed to play the one card he had:  Actually being a maverick, as opposed to talking about being a maverick.  His Marquess of Queensbury approach to campaigning was not up to the task of the big moment he’d been playing for for decades.
  • Sarah Palin may be the most exciting and the most divisive part of the whole story — but those, including many conservatives (including many Pajamas Media bloggers) who believe that one’s attitude toward her is the dividing line in the coming fight for the soul of the “right” are mistaken.  It’s a lot more complicated than that, and she’s entitled to a lot more respect than she’s getting even from a lot of people on “our side.”
  • George Bush:  At the end of the day, probably never forgivable.
  • If it were up to me, it’s Obama over Hillary.  It was that prospect — a Hillary Clinton Presidency — that truly darkened my thoughts, even though she was the only responsible Democrat during the primaries when it came to Iraq.  But unlike either Clinton, we pretty much know who Obama is.
  • Let’s not be like the other side.  Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.
  • There’s no room for any games on the race thing.  Period.

Effective Inauguration Day, Barack Obama is the President.  He’s not “my President” — but only because there’s no such thing as “my President.”*

But he’s the President of the United States.  My country.


* UPDATE:  Bully to Quincy, who seems to have written the same exact thing on my little “my President” point while my comment on Roger Kimball’s site was in moderation!  It is annoying that conservatives don’t get this.  I also don’t understand why they refer, or allow others to refer, to the President as the person who “runs the country.”  Arrgh!

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32 Responses to “The morning after”

  1. A couple of months ago, I was reading a blog where the guy was saying an Obama win would actually be a good thing for conservatives.
    However, I am worried about the fairness doctrine, and 1st Amendment issues, as harassment of this blogger through my extended family has already begun. All I can do is pray the same things don’t happen to my buds.
    I’m aware that this probably has more to do with my support of men’s rights issues than being a conservative thing, but still I can’t help but wonder…

  2. aloysiusmiller said

    Bobby Jindal in 2012! Former Hindu against incipient Muslim.

  3. Ruy Diaz said

    “Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.”

    This kind of thing coming from right-leaning individuals makes me grind my teeth. They demonize us. They think we are ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE. Trying the same nonsense about dialogue and polite conversation when they are trying to destroy us is what I find obstinate.

  4. Bruce said

    Here’s what needs to happen: Republicans via the blogosphere need to carefully document the factual details of the media bias in this past election now that there’s time and now that the media will be off to other matters. Most people are completely unaware of how bad it is. When the general electorate find out who Obama really is, then Republicans need to come forward with all this information in a very carefully constructed manner. Show an overwhelming amount of well presented evidence, leaving out anything that is not shockingly bad.

    Republicans need another Contract with America with key pragmatic points. Details of how to clean up voter fraud, earmarking, waste, shrink government, etc. And all members of the group (all new to Congress) sign it.

  5. Thomas Hazlewood said

    “Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.”

    That’s very noble of you. However, having already lived through the previous Democratic domination period of 42 years in both houses, and, having seen how the few years OUT of power radicalized the Democratic party, and having suffered from all those traits you described as they’ve been on display by Democrats recently, aren’t you talking to the wrong people?

  6. DBL said

    Starting today, the race for 2010 and 2012 starts. I have a few thoughts.

    1) Rebuilding the GOP – figuring out what it stands for – is critical. But I leave that for another day.

    2) What is critical right now, starting today, is deep, very deep opposition research on every nominee that Obama submits or plans to submit to the Senate – every assistant secretary, every agency commissioner, every ambassador, and eventually, every judge or justice. Every unpaid parking ticket, every unpaid tax, every intemperate remark or speech or article that can be portrayed as radical or offensive, every ugly allegation in a divorce – everything and anything that can be used to attack the reputation of these nominees must be dug up and publicized. The MSM won’t cooperate, of course, but the internet and talk radio can help get the word out. Why is this important? Because it will cast a pall on the Obama administration – he’s the one nominating the corrupt or radical or immoral candidates – and because it will force him to use up chits with the Senate Democrats to push his candidates through. The Democrats have used these tactics very successfully for the past 8 years and it’s time to return the favor.

    3) Campaign finance is broken forever. The Republican candidate in 2012 will need at least $2 billion to mount a credible challenge to Obama. He raised $600 million this year and his allies (unions, 527s) spent another few hundred million – all together, close to $1 billion. He’ll have more in 2012 as the incumbent. The challenger will need more than the incumbent to have a chance. Ergo, $2 billion. The time to start raising this money is today, Nov. 5, 2008.

  7. Jake said

    Always insightful and usually prophetic:

    Stephen Den Beste on Obama Win:
    http://chizumatic.mee.nu/not_the_end_of_the_world

  8. Cato said

    Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.

    Horsesh*t! We should just start with total obstinacy and a refusal to support anything Obama does. We should nourish our anger quietly, tempering it into a hatred that will never accept the Democrats as human. Over 40 years ago, James Burnham, in The Suicide of the West, described the liberal mind in which those who are not liberal are not fully human, while conservatives merely think their opponents are wrong. No more. They are evil, every bit as evil as the Soviet Union, North Korea and Iran.

  9. Republicans need another Contract with America with key pragmatic points. Details of how to clean up voter fraud, earmarking, waste, shrink government, etc. And all members of the group (all new to Congress) sign it.

    The first Contract with America was a gimmick, albeit a smart and effective gimmick. It gave people confidence that congress would act and would act responsibly. The final result was disastrous.
    If conservatives want credibility then they need to deliver on the promises that they make. That could be a very radical and popular idea: “We will make no promise that we cannot deliver to the people.” Take the hyperbole and gimmicks out of politics. Bring it back to common everyday reality.

    “Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.”

    For the most part, I agree (and very well put sir) but, if these government bailouts continue or accelerate; I will promote disengagement, the so-called reverse John Galt. Actively teach people how to enroll and receive Social Security Disability and other personal government subsidies. If our government is intent on bankrupting the economy in this generation, then you might as well take back what you can now, because it won’t be there for you later in life.

  10. m said

    We need to hammer the fact that just like Sen. Stevens of AK, Obama should be going to jail for accepting illegal gifts and income tax evasion

  11. Clyde said

    Well, America, you’ve decided to give the keys to the liquor cabinet and the Ferrari to your teenager. Figuratively speaking, of course. I hope your insurance premiums are paid up.

    Prediction #1: 2009 will be the Summer of Obummer. The term “Obummer!” will enter the national lexicon as President Obama does things that will disappoint or anger those who voted for him.

    “My electric bill doubled last month after Obama signed the Cap-and-Trade Laws!”
    “Obummer, man!”

    “My kid has to do 100 hours of community service in the Obama Youth!”
    “That’s an Obummer!”

    “I lost my job when Obama raised the taxes on my boss and he had to cut back on personnel.”
    “Wow, what an Obummer!”

    “Obama said I was going to get a tax cut, but now my taxes are going up even more than under Bush!”
    “Obummer!”

  12. MarkJ said

    I’ll piggyback on the above thoughts:

    1. Obama is officially now the “progressive” who utterly demolished the traditional progressive dream of publicly funded elections. Hey, what’s not to like? 😉

    2. Yes, Obama raised $600M this year. Unfortunately for him, the rest of us are now wise to his campaign donation scams. Furthermore, the Donks have painted themselves into a corner: they seem utterly unable to understand that all that money coming in is political heroin to them–once they’re hooked, they can’t give it up, but also can’t keep taking it. Something else: if the economy really goes south, there’s no guarantee the Donks will again receive the amounts they got this past year. After all, just as bankrupt firms and unemployed people don’t pay taxes, neither do they send in campaign donations.

    3. If I get a new “stimulus” check next year, here’s what I’m going to do with it. If I’m satisfied that the Republican Party is making significant progress on getting its own house in order, I’ll “spread the wealth” by donating my entire check the GOP. If not, then I’ll just use the money to add another firearm to my collection.

    Hey’s what’s not to like?

  13. stan said

    It’s all about the awesome propaganda power of the MSM. If conservatives do not make a serious effort to get truth to the average voter, we will have socialized medicine and a number of other disasters. So far, conservatives only whine and complain at being steamrolled by the media. This election was a propaganda coup. With an honest news media, Obama couldn’t have won. Of course, with an honest news media, Hillary couldn’t have been nominated either.

    If we don’t confront the reality of the propaganda that is driving politics, all the rest of the effort is a waste.

  14. Well said. I do wonder why the GOP can’t be replaced, however.

    Whether we continue to call the Party that results from this debacle the GOP or not, the changes needed would make the resulting party unrecognizable as the GOP we’ve known since 1988. Instead, I suspect there will be wailing and gnashing about not being sufficiently “moderate.” That’s how we got here, and I’m afraid no lessons have been learned.

  15. MarkJ said

    #7 Jake,

    Good piece by Stephen Den Beste. However, I disagree with “We’re going to lose in Afghanistan.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Obama has made much hay of ramping up our effort in Backwardistan since it’s still “the good war.” The wisdom of this, obviously, can be debated. However, President Hope & Change will be in a position where he’ll HAVE to win, otherwise he’ll look completely ineffectual. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama calls Gen. Petraeus and flat-out asks him, “General, how can we win this thing and what resources will you need to get the job done?”

  16. Jack Jack said

    If you are a conservative with a few potentially good earnings years left, your only hope is that a few “moderate” Democratic Senators will slow the liberal legislative steamroller. Utterly discredited ideas like the ERA, expansive new areas for lawsuits, punitive tax rates, government censorship of dissent, etc. will be resurrected under the cover of Orwellian names (Fairness Doctrine, Employer Free Choice Act, etc.).

    And God help us if the Senate changes the rule from 60 votes to a simple majority to close debate. As a reminder, this used to 67 votes in the 1970s.

    I can’t believe that my economic future depends upon 1) self-restraint from the Obamics, and 2) a few courageous “moderate” Democrats, who will probably get rolled by the libs.

    God help us.

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  18. Ara said

    Sorry I’m late. I got hung up in traffic.

    I heard there was an election — how’d it turn out?

    I’m afraid we won’t know for quite some time, Ara, in any meaningful sense! — RDC

  19. Jack is Back! said

    I have been reading a number of blogs by smart conservative writers like Jennifer Rubin and not one of them has mentioned SCOTUS. Any of you who lived through the Warren court should be really alarmed. Obama is a marxist – there is no other political philosophy that meets any other definition. There are 2 or 3 Supremes that will retire and the only thing standing between the most liberal court we have ever seen and political sanity is the cloture proof Senate we now have. But I cannot see 42 or 43 Republican senators keeping this court from going pink if not red. That is the nub of the whole matter – everything except national security is small change.

    You’re right about this, Jack. I made this point last week. For some reason America didn’t listen to me! So there’s not a damned thing we can do about it. — RDC

  20. “Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.”

    Indeed. We need to remember the old warning: “What good is it if a man gains the whole world, yet forfeits his own soul?”

    This quote from J.R.R. Tolkien is also particularly comforting:

    “Far above the Ephel Dúath in the West, the night-sky was still dim and pale. There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end, the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was Light and high Beauty forever beyond its reach.”

  21. JohnnyL said

    “Let’s not be like the other side. Opposition can be fierce, heartfelt and even brutal if need be, but let’s not demonize our adversaries or turn our anger, disappointment or alienation into subversive hopes for our common good, disengagement from the system or just plain obstinacy.”

    I don’t know why some here are interpreting this to mean “polite dialogue”. I thought about doing the “Kos” thing but then remembered that we should be better than they are. My country ….right or wrong. President of the United States but not “my President”. He will get the respect from me that the office deserves but brutal opposition for every policy and initiative that I feel is not in my country’s best interest.

  22. Lea said

    I thought about doing the “Kos” thing but then remembered that we should be better than they are

    Exactly. There is no reason to become the thing we hate! This unreasoned dialogue should not become our style, just because it’s theirs. If that makes us the grown-up party, so be it. This country needs some grown-ups.

    Good manners, I read somewhere, is nothing but a series of small sacrifices.

  23. Thank you, thank you, thank you Citizen Grim, and Lea.

    Not only is there no reason to become the thing you hate… there is every reason not to. Both for yourself and because you never lose out by doing the right thing.

    Otherwise why bother even caring?

  24. BSG said

    “John McCain may be the most fortunate man in the world right this minute.”

    Why? Because he doesn’t have to take responsibility for cleaning up the mess Bush & the GOP has left our country in?

    “The most painful thing about this is not that the other side won, but that so very many of them are such absolute insufferable asses… But among these asses, none is more contemptible than virtually every member of the Democratic caucus of the two houses of Congress. To them I wish nothing but the worst.”

    So much for not “demoniz[ing] our adversaries….”

    “One of the great tests of our system will be whether the great degree of lawlessness and corruption that was the Obama campaign will be revealed and punished.”

    WTF? Can you support such an outlandish statement with anything other than conspiracy theories?

  25. BAP said

    The distinction that Cato (#8) and Ruy Diaz (#3) are missing is that some liberals are beyond hope, but others are not.

    I am surrounded by liberal friends and family members who are solid, decent, well-meaning people. They are not beyond hope, but they will never be persuaded (just as you and I have not been persuaded by the antics of Kos, Olbermann, Franken, Maher, etc.) by people who are so angry they can’t see straight, who call them names, who yell about how evil their political representatives are without acknowledging that ours can be just as corrupt, etc., etc.

    We have work to do and, as yesterday’s election should have made painfully clear, we need as many allies as we can find in this fight.

    We’re Americans–let’s recognize the good things that came out of yesterday’s results (ANOTHER peaceful turnover of power, election of a black man, etc.), honestly assess our challenges (too many to even begin a list) and get on with it.

  26. James Burdo said

    “we pretty much know who Obama is”

    We do? He seems like political Heisenberg effect that changes depending on the observor.

  27. Yehudit said

    “…WTF? Can you support such an outlandish statement with anything other than conspiracy theories?…”

    This is all really new to you? You don’t really know the guy you just elected, do you?

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/2/
    http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/exclusive-barackobamacoms-lax-security-opens-door-to-online-donor-fraud
    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/29/missouri-sheriffs-prosecutors-obama-truth-squad-getting-old-media-silenc
    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=FBBD4941-18FE-70B2-A858A3414D2AD30F
    http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/10/18/mccain_camp_responds_to_obamas_1/

  28. happyfeet said

    This was smart and nice to read.

  29. Good post.

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  31. Bob Miller said

    As was said long ago, we need “a choice, not an echo”.

  32. Mr. T said

    WARNING: EXPRESSION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT – MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE TO READERS OF THIS BLOG

    Be Proud “Chicago,” “Illinois,” and “America”. . . . . truth triumphs over lies and desperation . . . now the hard work begins . . . America needs to unite . . . pull together . . . if the McCain/Palin Campaign proved anything – its is smear tactics and politics of division in the USA among races, wealthy, religions . . . . is NO longer unacceptable . . . Obama won the popular vote, the educated vote (college degrees, and advanced degrees), and exceeded John McCain by 6% in those making over $200,000 a year . . .

    Obama took the high road . . . McCain/Palin took the low road. Never heard anything good out of any of their ads (or policies) only negative. I guess there was NOTHING good to say about the Republican candidates. The ad hominum attacks, mischaracterization, words taken out of context, magnification of human errors, voter suppression tactics, and other tactics were simply offensive to the public. Your tunnel vision is showing. Bush and his cronies rode the USA into the ground. Even without a majority in Congress, Bush refused to compromise – look in the mirror. McCain/Palin – a solution to what?

    Palin a breath of fresh air looking out her backdoor at Russia. “Shucks, ya’ll” Palin, Joe Six Pack, and Joe the Plumber (oops not a plumber) would have made us proud to be Americans. If only she could have married Jimmy Carter’s brother, the would we have a true partisan world.

    I guess there are a lot of fools who voted for Obama. Read these article links if you want to learn about McCain and Palin in a different light – check out these facts (investigative reporting or as you would call it bias by a “liberal left-wing organization.” Who was indicted in Alaska, a 20 million dollar hockey rink, the number 1 state receiving pork, and MCCain bitching about a 3 million dollar earmark for the Chicago Planiterium!!!! I guess gazing at the stars does not equate with a hockey mom’s agenda – a rink in every small town,

    You want the truth about McCain – the “Maverick” – its a lie – he is a phony – a true hero in the POW Camp talks about McCain (as well as other named sources)- even you acknowledge it.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23140513/the_truth_about_sarah_palin

    P.S. I consider myself an independent – moderate not a liberal. But, if it makes you feel better label me a radical left winger. . . I know that you wouldn’t want to demonize the majority of voters.

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